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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:12 pm 
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I saw a custom Hi-Power for sale recently that said it had a "EGW 25 lpi insert" on the front strap. The photo looked as if the "insert" in question was permanently attched to the gun. Does anyone know if these inserts are just held in place by the grips or are they permanently welded somehow onto the front strap? Are they worthwhile?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:54 pm 
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Fundi, if you check EGW's website on I think it was page 9 of their catalog, they have a picture and explain exactly how the inserts are installed. It says a pocket is machined in the frame and the inserts are tig welded in and then dressed to the frame. Cruise on over to their site and check it out!--John

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:25 pm 
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Thanks JR, apologize for my poor research.

Does anyone know how practical and aesthetically apppealing these are from experience? Quality of checker and blending to frame, etc. ?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:22 am 
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George does a great job..the checkering is well done..and his welding is fantastic.


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Thanks :D

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Had it done on a Para of mine. Was great and my only choice since it had a welded on magwell prior to that.


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That was my gun, and it was attached via "EDM", which, unfortunately, I no longer remember what that stands for. It was flawlessly done. You could not tell that it was attached, rather than checkering of the original front strap.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:42 am 
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That was my gun, and it was attached via "EDM", which, unfortunately, I no longer remember what that stands for. It was flawlessly done. You could not tell that it was attached, rather than checkering of the original front strap.

Richard
Electric (electronic?) Discharge Machining.
Very precise.


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I believe EDM is how the pocket is cut out of the frame as EDM is a wire cutting method not an attaching method. I believe that they TIG weld it in place.


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I believe EDM is how the pocket is cut out of the frame as EDM is a wire cutting method not an attaching method. I believe that they TIG weld it in place.
Yup, wire EDM'ing is a precision cutting operation.

They then Tig weld the insert in place. I'm sending a Colt government off next week for this operation. A hand checkering job gone horribly wrong with a thin frontstrap to begin with leaves me with little choice. I suppose I could weld up the entire frontstrap and recut it, but this sounds a lot quicker and easier.

I'll try to post some pictures later.
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I have seen a couple of these which were done to rescue some frames which otherwise would have been scrapped- I was very impressed with the work. Considering the difficulty and high quality of the work, the price and turnaround are very reasonable.

In the white you had to know what to look for to see the welds, after the gun was refinished it would take a very knowledgable and educated eye to see anthing but a great looking pistol and first class checkering.


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Thanks Steve :D

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On a P-35 with serial# on front stap is this possible?

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Hi Kids,
As ALWAYS thank you for the kind words. I very much appreciate it.

The inserts are made on a cnc turning center, sent out to a gear cutter house and come back and are re sliced to deburr. The checkering is Very good.

We use a Ram edm Machine with a Graphite electrode cut to the contour of the insert. We EDM (electro discharge) away the steel which is a very accurate process as stated. Wire EDM is precice also but generally goes through steel, Ram EDM uses some of the same technology but by transfering many sparks to melt the steel to incandecant temp and the dialectric oil cools and floats away the little steel sphires.

We than Tig in an insert and dress out.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:59 pm 
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I of course would use a farrier's rasp, duct tape, JB weld and a 4 pound sledge, but George's way will probably work too :lol:

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:lol:

Now that was downright funny!


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