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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:09 pm 
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Greetings,
I received my Heinie Caspian Ti 9x23 Commander today. Having shot 300 rounds of white box Winchester this afternoon, the gun showed itself more accurate than I can hold, and completely reliable.
I told Richard to build the gun pretty much any way he saw fit. I only really asked that he use a Bar-Sto barrel, it be NP3'ed, and that the grips be Ahrends tulipwood.

Pics can be seen here: http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthr ... post864333

I would have posted the pics here, but I'm having trouble with ImageStation :evil:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:38 pm 
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I went to go look at the photos. VERY NICE gun.

I also have to say that I have always been a fan of first the .38 super and then the 9x23 Win.

Congrats on your new pistol.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:48 am 
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Looks great! Good to know that NP3 will go on titanium.

Seems like 95% of all 9X23's I see are Commanders. Wonder why that is?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:38 am 
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Greetings everyone,
Thanks for the compliments! This is the first 9x23 pistol for me, and I was suprised by the lack of recoil and muzzle lift I experienced yesterday. After reading about the cartidge having similar ballistics as the .357 Magnum I expected more ooomph. Maybe I've just been shooting too much full-power 10mm lately

A few items of note:

Waiting for the pistol was tough, but the length of time was acceptable. Think "Years."

The trigger is perfect. I like my triggers "light," and this one surely is at 2-3/4 pounds. Of course it breaks like the proverbial "Glass Rod," but what's most impressive is my electronic trigger gauge showed the break-point as always within 1 ounce for 20 pulls. Talk about consistency!

The NP3 is great, but there were doubts as to its compatibilty with the Ti frame. Robbie Barkman was consulted on this, and he said that generally the results were mixed,... that sometimes its works and sometimes it doesn't. What was reassuring was that he said if the NP3 does adhere to the Ti at the time of application, that it WILL stay on. Luckily for me it did.

To prevent primer flow, an all too real possibility with any 9x23 caliber pistol, Richard set the firing pin's nose very close to the breachface while at rest. Now there's little chance of the pin locking-up on primer "bits."

The Scallops are a first for me, and they feel like..... Scallops. It's hard to describe, but they really don't feel much different than 30 lpi checkering, until I consciously think about them, and then I can feel my hands sinking into the Scallops. Bottom line, if you like the looks of Scallops and the feel of fine checkering, go with the Scallops. They do not feel as "intrusive" as the look.

The slide-to-frame fit is tight,... no verticle or horizontal play, whatsoever. Yet the barrel bushing wrench Richard supplied with the pistol is only for decoration. I can remove the bushing easily by hand.

What many folks may find interesting are some of the items in the Care & Use instructions Richard includes with all his full-house pistols.
They say, in part,:

Do not drop slide on an empty chamber (will cause sear damage).

The pistol should be lubricated with a good Synthetic Lubricant (5W-30 Mobil One).

Sear and hammer bearing surfaces should be lubricated with a small amount of Trigger Slick or a Moly based Grease.

I recommend using a Shok-buff washer.

If a great amount of dry firing is to be done, place a piece of leather between firing pin and hammer.

Pretty controversial stuff, huh?

The Alessi/Heinie D.O.J. holster that Richard includes with all of his pistols is very impressive. The gun "snaps" into it with such precision that it almost feels "mechanical." Good stuff.

I'd be happy to answer any other questions...

ktmhk53


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:25 am 
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Congrats on your new pistol. I'm with Ned though, why so many 9x23's in the Commander config?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:12 am 
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I'm with Ned though, why so many 9x23's in the Commander config?
Maybe because the .45 has been done to death? :wink:
Its all because of those renegade 'smiths who are never satisfied, and need to keep pushing the envelope... 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:43 pm 
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size efficiency.

Oh yeah, they hardly kick!
I have the parts for a ltwt 9x23 here,,waiting on just a few more things and then off to garthwaite.

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The Care & Use instructions were a nice touch. And lthough I thought the general consencus was that buffers were not to be used in Commanders, I always use them when test firing customers' guns (the thin, 3/32 ones and not 1/8), and they never cause a problem.

The one 9X23 I've built, I messed around with various things to cure primer flow and finally did what I thought from the start would be the best thing-- bushed the FP hole and made a smaller FP.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:42 pm 
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The primer flow can be a result of the ammo.
Small rifle primers are warranted and the Winchester practice load doesn't always have them...but the Silvertips do.

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